LET'S MOVE ON TO A CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC.

WE HAVE VIEWERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS QUESTION.

I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO -- THE QUESTIONS ARE FAIRLY DETAILED.

I'M GOING TO ASK IT IN A MORE GENERIC OR GENERAL SENSE, BECAUSE THERE ARE LOTS OF MOVING PIECES HERE.

WE HAVE VIEWERS WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT GUN CONTROL LEGISLATION, THINGS SUCH AS RED FLAG LAWS, OTHER PROVISIONS THAT ONE MIGHT REGARD AS GUN CONTROL PROVISIONS AND OTHERS WHO ARE OPPOSED FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, INCLUDING CONSTITUTIONAL REASONS.

I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE THE PANEL AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS TOPIC.

LET'S START WITH YOU REPRESENTATIVE URDAHL.

WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE HOUSE ON THIS SUBJECT?

WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ON THIS?

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN?

THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

>> FIRST OF ALL, LAST WEEK RECEIVED COMMUNICATION FROM MY COUNTY SHERIFF IN MEEKER COUNTY AND THE COUNTY SHERIFFS IN THIS REGION, AND THERE ARE 12 OF THEM THAT SIGNED A LETTER.

THEY ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE BILLS.

THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THIS ENDEAVOR.

THEY ARE CONCERNED WITH THE RED FLAG LAWS, BUT PEOPLE BASICALLY BEING CHARGED WITH CRIME BEFORE THE FACT, BEFORE VIOLENCE OCCURS WITH THE GUN.

THEY ARE HAVING THEIR PROPERTY CONFISCATED FROM THEM.

NORMALLY IT'S AFTER SOMETHING HAPPENS.

OF COURSE WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE SAFE.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER LAWS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE DO TO OUR CRIMINALS RIGHT NOW.

WE NEED TO TOUGHEN UP OUR SENTENCING, TOUGHEN UP THE ENFORCEMENT CATEGORIES AND BASICALLY SHERIFFS ARE SAYING THAT TYPE OF THING TO ME.

THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE BEING PENALIZED BEFORE THE CRIME IS COMMITTED.

THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN DEALING WITH THESE PEOPLE.

IN TERMS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING, THERE ARE BILLS BEING PRESENTED, RED FLAG AND OTHERS.

I THINK MOST OF THE BILLS THAT ARE CONCERNING TO PEOPLE ARE BEING INTRODUCED.

IN THE HOUSE THEY HAVE A CHANCE OF PASSING.

I CAN SEE THE MAJORITY BEING ABLE TO CARRY THE DAY ON ALL OF THESE JUST AS THEY HAVE BEEN IN ALMOST EVERY OTHER BILL THEY WANT TO DO.

>> Barry: SENATOR HOWE, WHAT'S THE PERSPECTIVE IN THE SENATE ON GUN CONTROL LEGISLATION GENERALLY?

>> WELL, THERE'S BEEN 5 BILLS INTRODUCED.

I THINK THEY ARE ILL ADVISED, ALL 5 OF THEM.

LIKE REPRESENTATIVE URDAHL SAID, THE RED FLAG LAW, THE UNIVERSAL REGISTRATION, THE -- THERE'S A FIREARM AND AMMO STORAGE BILL THAT SAYS THAT YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE YOUR FIREARM UNDER -- UNLOADED AND UNDER LOCK AND KEY AT ALL TIMES, AND YOUR AMMO STORAGE SEPARATELY.

IF YOU HAVE GOT A FIREARM FOR PERSONAL SAFETY OF YOUR HOME, I'M SURE YOU CAN HAVE THE PERPETRATOR THAT'S BREAKING INTO YOUR HOUSE TO WAIT A MINUTE WHILE YOU UNLOCK YOUR GUN, YOUR FIREARM, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND GET OUR AMMUNITION AND LOAD IT UP.

I'M SURE HE'S GOING TO GIVE YOU THE TIME TO GET ALL OF THAT DONE.

IN MY AREA IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU 20 MINUTES TO GET A 911 RESPONSE.

I'M SURE THEY WILL WAIT FOR YOU TO GET THAT DONE.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.

IT'S NICE MAYBE WHEN YOU LIVE DOWN IN MINNEAPOLIS OR ST. PAUL WHEN YOU HAVE GOT ALL THESE OFFICERS EVERYWHERE THAT WILL COME LICKITY-SPLIT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN GREATER MINNESOTA.

THE LAST BILL THAT DROPPED WAS FROM SENATOR MARTY THAT IT BASICALLY -- AND IT SAYS IT RIGHT IN THE BILL, WANTS TO TREAT YOUR FIREARM LIKE YOUR CAR.

THEY WANT TO LICENSE IT, REGISTER IT AND HAVE LIABILITY INSURANCE ON IT.

THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY, WHEN I TALKED TO THEM, SAID YOU CAN'T INSURE AN INTENTIONAL ACT.

SO IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT TRYING TO INSURE SOMETHING FOR SANDY HOOK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, CAN'T BE DONE.

THERE ARE SOME OUTFITS OUT THERE THAT WILL INSURE YOUR GUN AND FOR A LEGAL PROCESS IF YOU DISCHARGE A FIREARM AND SOMEONE GETS HURT.

THEY WILL BACK YOU FOR THAT AND PROVIDE LIABILITY INSURANCE.

BUT THIS THING IS -- THESE BILLS ARE OVERREACHING.

I THINK REPRESENTATIVE URDAHL WAS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

WE NEED TO GO AFTER THE CRIMINALS AND ACTUALLY ENFORCE THE LAWS THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS AND MAYBE PUT SOME MINIMUM SENTENCING ON THEM THAT IS STIFFER, MUCH, MUCH STIFFER WHEN YOU USE A FIREARM IN THE ACT OF A CRIME AND STOP TRYING TO MAKE CRIMINALS OUT OF LAW ABIDING GUN OWNERS.

THAT'S WHAT MOST OF THESE BILLS ARE GOING OUT TO DO.

THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE THOSE OF US WHO HAVE GUNS, THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE CRIMINALS OUT OF THIS WHOLE THING INSTEAD OF GOING AFTER THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE ILLEGAL GUNS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I THINK WE ARE JUST MISGUIDED, AND OUR FOCUS IS WRONG.

>> Barry: REPRESENTATIVE PELOWSKI?

>> I DON'T THINK I CAN ADD ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT URDAHL AND SENATOR HOWE ALREADY EXPRESSED.

I THINK THEY PRETTY WELL COVERED IT.